Friday, October 2, 2026
Author Q&A: Theodore Savas and "The Indispensable Man"
The site's long-running Q&A feature ends its rather long hiatus with the return of Theodore Savas. Ted wore his publisher's hat for our 2007 interview, but today we will be talking about his newest work on the authorial side of things: The Indispensable Man: George Washington Rains, the Confederate Powder Works, and the Civil War You Never Knew.
CWBA: Welcome back, Ted. It has often been said that no Confederate army lost a battle because of a lack of arms, powder, and shot. However, a wider reading uncovers a number of challenges to that long accepted claim. For example, antiquated arms were a key factor in the early-war Confederate defeat at Mill Springs and, accurately or not, bad powder was blamed for the mid-war loss to a much smaller Union force at Honey Springs. Also, in a general sense, defective shells and obsolete artillery dramatically impacted Confederate hitting power on a multitude of battlefields. What are your thoughts on the matter?
TS:
This first question deserves a full reply, so here we go.
You’re right to challenge it, and so do I. That line is one of the most durable myths of the war. It survives and thrives because of what I call reverse-engineered thinking: the Confederacy fought for four years, none of the big-name battles were lost because of a lack of munitions, so it always had the means to fight a long war. It didn’t have the means to fight a war at all in 1861, and it lost a lot of engagements because of a lack of powder. Let me dig into this a bit more.
When George Rains sat down in a Richmond hotel room with Jefferson Davis and Josiah Gorgas on July 8, 1861, for what was essentially a final job interview in a meeting no one has ever written about, not a pound of military-grade powder was being made anywhere in the South. Davis put him in charge of locating, designing, and building a mammoth central government gunpowder mill from scratch to supply the entire war effort east of the Mississippi. We will come back to this later.
You noted Mill Springs. General Crittenden attacked in the rain on January 19, 1862, at the far eastern end of Johnston’s line three months before the Augusta Powder Works began production. We don’t have precise records of what the Confederates fighting there had at that time, and the powder they did have was probably subpar—wet and poorly made. The previous October, General Zollicoffer and some of his officers were complaining that they did not have two rounds of ammunition per man, and that artillery had arrived with empty shells.
After the Augusta Powder Works went into operation in April of 1862, no significant defeat east of the Mississippi River took place because of a lack of gunpowder. Before that, during the war’s first year, there are multiple examples of major defeats in several states directly related to a lack of powder. Rains and the Augusta mill, except for one small shipment, did not send powder to the Trans-Mississippi, but I have a significant amount of information about just how bad the powder was out there and the consequences.
Take Honey Springs. That was a quality problem, and the evidence is stronger than “accurately or not” suggests. That summer, Gen. William Steele complained that the powder he received from San Antonio “looks well when first opened, but attracts moisture to such an extent that exposure to damp weather converts it into a paste. The troops have no confidence in it.” Gen. Kirby Smith wrote about this in March 1864: Mexican powder made with nitrate of soda instead of nitrate of potash “caused our troops to be defeated on the Arkansas, and resulted in the loss of the greater portion of the Indian Territory.” None of that powder came from Augusta; it all came from Mexico by order of Richmond.
You’re right about “hitting power,” though that term has different applications. At Charleston in 1863, Beauregard complained that not more than one-fifth of the fuses he’d been sent “burst properly or with accuracy.” Rains watched the batteries engage the Union fleet and was alarmed by what he witnessed: “I regret to say that of the many shells I saw fired from our batteries at the enemy from the 10 inch Columbiad, but few fuzes took fire and hence the ammunition and projectiles were expended without effect.” But the problem was never Augusta powder, which was routinely tested. The lack of “hitting power” in my view came not only from bad fuses but from weak powder made in smaller state-run or quasi-private mills, especially in New Orleans. I mention this in more detail in a later answer below.
To summarize: once Augusta was running at full stride, from April 1862 and thereafter, the claim holds up reasonably well for quantity and quality east of the Mississippi. There was neither quantity nor much quality during the first year of the war anywhere, and this was true west of the river as well for essentially the entire war.
CWBA: There are a lot of senior Confederate/militia officers named Rains for Civil War readers to keep track of, including Gabriel Rains of the torpedo bureau, James E. Rains (killed leading his brigade at Stones River), James S. Rains (a Missouri State Guard brigadier primarily known for his alcoholism and military incompetence), and your Rains, George Washington Rains. For those not familiar with him, can you provide a short capsule bio?
TS:
Even the newspapers couldn’t keep them straight. In July 1861, while George Rains was meeting Tennessee’s governor in Nashville, papers from Buffalo to Dallas were arguing over whether the “Gen. Rains” fighting in Missouri was the Major Rains who had been running an iron works in New York and had gone South. He wasn’t.
George Washington Rains was born in New Bern, North Carolina, in 1817, the younger brother of Gabriel of torpedo and landmine fame. Their father built fine furniture and cheap caskets, went broke, and moved the family to Alabama one step ahead of his creditors. George graduated from West Point first in chemistry and third in the class of 1842 (Longstreet, Rosecrans, D. H. Hill, and Abner Doubleday were classmates; Mansfield Lovell was his roommate).
He served as an engineer and artillery officer, taught chemistry at West Point, and had a remarkable Mexican War career as a spy, engineer, and combat staff officer for Gens. Winfield Scott and Gideon Pillow. In 1856, George married into one of the richest families in America (that’s a crazy story), resigned from the U.S. Army, and moved to upstate New York, where he helped manage and grow his father-in-law’s Washington Iron Works at Newburgh. He was a wealthy man by the time his home state of North Carolina seceded. He was also in communication with Richmond, which was trying to get him to join the Confederacy for a specific task. He left his wife and young daughter in June 1861 and traveled to Richmond, a move that permanently estranged him from his father-in-law; his marriage never fully recovered.
While designing and building the two-mile-long Augusta mill complex, he traveled to every state east of the Mississippi. He turned Tennessee’s lone blasting mill into a viable operation late in the year and helped design a second mill from scratch; without these, Albert Sidney Johnston could not have maintained any Western Theater line.
The Augusta mill was the only permanent industrial complex or construction project the Confederacy finished. Rains had a myriad of complex important duties, eventually commanded several arsenals, and during the war’s final weeks served as the Confederacy’s de facto chief of ordnance. He ended the war as a colonel but was probably promoted to brigadier during the final days.
He remained in Augusta, taught chemistry, served as dean of the Medical College of Georgia, and wrote several textbooks. He returned to Newburgh in 1894 after his father-in-law died, and died there himself in 1898.
CWBA: The Indispensable Man is clearly more than a Civil War biography that follows the standard format. How would you describe what kind of book it is?
TS: It is three books, threaded together under the primary rubric of biography.
First, it’s a full biography. George Rains led five very different lives: birth to West Point, a distinguished career in the Old Army, a prosperous stretch as an industrialist and family man in New York, four years as the Confederacy’s powdermaker, and three decades as a teacher and college dean in Augusta. His prewar years are covered in full because you can’t understand what he was able to achieve during the Civil War without understanding how he built his talent stack.
Second, it’s an industrial and logistics history. That might sound boring, but it’s edge-of-your-seat front-row coverage of a shadow war you have never known. You’ll learn more about powder than you probably want to, but you must be versed in this if you study the war at any serious level. Most historians have no idea how hard and complex powder was to make, and why pistols, small arms, field artillery, and coastal guns all needed different grains of powder. They aren’t interchangeable. Making it and distributing it to where it needed to go was a nightmare that never ended. That gap in knowledge has distorted what historians have written, and how they and we have read and understand the war. Please note that this is not a criticism. I didn’t know much about this either until I began studying it.
Third, and this is what surprised me most, The Indispensable Man is a history of the strategy of the war told through the lens of gunpowder. Rains and the Augusta Powder Works are inextricably linked to grand strategy, and not indirectly. I have the firsthand accounts to prove it.
There were eye-popping shortages everywhere, at every level, nearly all the time during the war’s first year. This was true even in Virginia, where the Confederates hoarded most of what they seized from the U.S. arsenals and forts.
All of this raises a hard question about the other side: what did the Lincoln administration know and when did it know it? Lincoln and everyone in any position of power knew the South had very little powder and could not replace what little it had. Major newspapers like the New York Times explained the complexities of making powder, why the Confederacy could not make it quickly, and it specifically warned Lincoln not to give Jefferson Davis what he needed most: the time to develop a central mill to reach a war footing.
Despite all this knowledge, the United States adopted a long-war strategy for a conflict that could have ended quickly regardless of who was tactically victorious in the field. Pulling triggers and yanking lanyards anywhere—even vigorously sustained skirmishing—would have drained the Confederacy within weeks. I know that statement raises eyebrows, but I cover this in depth with numbers and firsthand accounts. Everyone of consequence on both sides knew this. The Confederate War Department reports it produced for itself and for the Congress shocked everyone—and not in a good way. The math was undeniable. If Lincoln pressed them, the war was over. You have never heard or read this because it never made it into the books.
The footnotes are almost a fourth book. They are deep and explanatory, and I urge everyone to read them carefully. All my work is there.
CWBA: In your introduction, you recount your experience of one of any scholarly endeavor’s greatest frustrations: being flatly denied access to key manuscript material. Did that top official with the county museum you referenced offer a reason why you couldn’t examine the Rains papers they held?
TS: Not specifically, but I think he was embarrassed that I flew in from California and had to point out what was jammed into drawers on an upper floor and what they really were. He called them “some Confederate drawings.” I explained what they were, why they were important, that only a few had ever been seen, and that they were the Rosetta Stone of Confederate industry. He was English, not American, and he was more interested in geology and dinosaurs than he was in history. He was not a helpful man. It was maddening.
The good news is that the story didn’t end there. Years later the museum had a new curator, Gordon Blaker, who understood exactly what he had. Those drawings became the foundation of Never for Want of Powder (2007).
CWBA: What was it about Rains’s background and skill set that made him a strong fit to manage the Augusta Powder Works?
TS: No one else in the Confederacy combined what he brought to the table, and no one else could have performed that task. That is not hyperbole. He had broad and deep experience in chemistry, science in general, math, teaching, engineering, and military science, as well as combat experience and years spent managing a major industrial complex in New York, where he learned business, logistics, shipping, hiring, firing, management, production schedules, and a lot more. If he had never married into the Ramsdell family and run the Washington Iron Works, he could never have designed, built, and managed the Augusta Powder Works. New York was a dress rehearsal, but of course he didn’t know that at the time. Quite literally, no one else had that talent stack. No one. And Rains used all of it to achieve what he did.
CWBA: You mention that this is a book decades in the making. One of the stops along the way was the publication of Never for Want of Powder: The Confederate Powder Works in Augusta, Georgia (U. of S. Carolina Press, 2007) that you co-authored. Between then and now did you discover new sources that revised your understanding of what was presented in the 2007 study?
TS: Great question. Never for Want of Powder was a team effort led by Chip Bragg and blended several disciplines. My part was the Rains biographical chapters. The main subject was the works themselves: the architecture, the machinery, the process, and Charles Ross’s careful reconstruction of the production records. That research holds up, and I cite it often in my new book. What I found in the years following its publication changed my understanding of Rains and all that he did and why, and changed the book I thought I was writing into something quite different.
In 2010, I obtained a 30-page handwritten memorandum Rains wrote during the war’s final months. It had never been published or used in any manner. Unfortunately, like a lot of Rains items it ends mid-sentence, so it could have been 100 pages. I have no way of knowing. The candid memorandum walks through his entire service in personal and opinionated terms. It confirms his meeting with Davis and Gorgas and that he left Richmond for Nashville the same afternoon he got his orders. It explains all he did and why and offers chilling descriptions of how Albert Sidney Johnston was completely unprepared for combat of any kind for months on end during the fall and winter of 1861-62, and how worried Johnston, Rains, et al. were that Union forces would advance and force them to expend what little powder they had.
Second, the advent of digital research unlocked scores of sources and connected the dots. In January 2020, I started running keyword searches in the Official Records. If a document isn’t in the index, you’ll never find it, and the index is far from complete. Searching for “powder” and other keywords important to my study turned up letters, telegrams, and reports I’d never seen, from generals, governors, arsenal officers, citizens—you name it. I ended up compiling my own index of all 128 volumes, tailored to my study.
All these documents said the same basic thing: we have no powder, few or no shells, and if attacked cannot hold our positions. This was true of virtually every fort, city, coastal area, and field force large and small. The first time or two I read that I thought, “Huh, that’s interesting.” Then I learned that the Confederate War Department knew the problem was widespread. The common reply from Richmond was that it would send powder only to whomever was being threatened or attacked—when and if it could get powder. Meanwhile, hold on and show a bold front. The “Huh, that’s interesting” morphed into “My God, this was everywhere, and they could not hold, if pressed, anywhere.”
Searches in newspapers (worldwide) and letter books from arsenals and depots, compiled service records, and more uncovered a deeper treasure trove that supported and expanded on all this. I found so much I could not even use it all. My research produced a picture of a very different war than the one in the books.
The third was the discovery of a critically important, misfiled Jefferson Davis document that tied all this together to strategy. As far as I can tell, no one had ever used it, including his biographers and any other writers who would have had a deep interest in doing so. It’s not even in his collected papers. I shared it with a couple of Davis historians, and they admitted that they had never seen it. William C. Davis, a good friend of mine who read my manuscript, told me it surprised him and raised serious questions, especially about how the first year of the war was fought.
To summarize, these sources unlocked and explained two things. First, they put Rains’s heretofore unknown work for General Johnston in Tennessee (and in other states) in 1861 in proper context, and second, they reframed the strategy of the entire first year of the war. (I won’t get into it here, but it also alters, in my opinion, how we must look at the last eight or so months of the end of the war.) I have studied the Civil War for 50 years. I had never seen any of this.
CWBA: You estimate that Rains’s facilities produced over 3 million pounds of quality military-grade powder between April 1862 and April 1865. Of the combined total of domestically produced powder and that imported through the blockade over the length of the war, around what percentage was manufactured at Augusta?
TS: I’d love to give you a clean number, but no one can do it honestly, and I’d be skeptical of anyone who claims to be able to do so. It was clearly the large majority of all the powder available after April 1862.
The Augusta side of the equation is solid. Charles Ross worked through the daily ledgers and found the works made 3,168,450 pounds between April 1862 and April 1865, nearly half a million pounds more than Rains himself claimed. The import side is not. We know about individual cargoes, but there is no complete count, and the surviving figures often disagree. Estimates of the powder the Fingal brought into Savannah in 1861, for example, range from 17,000 pounds to 48 tons! In addition, a lot of imported powder arrived wet and often ruined. Much of it had to be reworked. How much was ruined or lost is unknown.
What I can say with confidence is that among domestic producers east of the Mississippi, Augusta dwarfed everyone else. The two Tennessee mills Rains established and/or reorganized and equipped were vital but small affairs and short-lived. Records for the mill at Columbia, South Carolina, have never been found, and that powder was for the Navy. The two North Carolina mills (one private and the other a quasi-state affair) blew themselves up repeatedly, and records are scarce. The two small South Carolina blasting mills at Pendleton and Walhalla turned out powder that was so bad that the Confederate government stopped working with them early in the war. Mansfield Lovell eventually erected two mills in New Orleans. Neither produced good powder. One blew up at the end of 1861, and the powder from the other was so bad that gunners watched their shells arc out of the barrels and drop into the water.
CWBA: With demand for Augusta powder coming from all parts of the Confederacy, how was distribution prioritized?
TS: Calls came routinely from all compass points, all the time. We know to the pound where it went, and it was mostly dictated by threat and need. A significant amount of correspondence among Rains, Josiah Gorgas, and the War Department, of course, is missing, but Richmond decided where the big shipments went, and that often meant whoever was in the most danger that month. When John Pemberton needed powder for Vicksburg in January 1863, for example, he didn’t wire Augusta. He wired Gorgas: “Please order General Rains, at Augusta, to send me at once 30,000 pounds of powder. Must have it immediately.”
Most of the powder went to arsenals. Richmond, Charleston, and the Augusta Arsenal received the most, and they turned it into the cartridges and fixed ammunition for the main field armies and the heavy guns. Beyond them, Rains shipped to about two dozen points east of the Mississippi. The records are detailed enough, for example, that we know what the major posts received, to the pound, and when. The daily records are incredibly detailed, and I include a full appendix breaking down the racial makeup of the employees and the skilled and unskilled laborers who ran the mill.
The priorities shifted with the fighting. Tons went to Lee before the Gettysburg campaign, and then more in its aftermath. Rains sent 100,000 pounds of columbiad powder to Mobile in the months preceding Farragut’s attack in 1864, and several tons to Wilmington in the run-up to Fort Fisher’s fall. There was often a cost to these choices. In April 1863, for example, with most of the powder cars headed up the coast to Charleston and Lee, the Macon laboratory (and I think an arsenal or two) shut down for a time for want of powder of all types. That meant the Army of Tennessee and other forces suffered a shortage, temporarily.
Geography set its own limits and restrictions. Getting powder to Selma, Alabama, or Jackson or Vicksburg, Mississippi, meant unloading trains onto wagons, then boats, then trains again, because the railroads didn’t connect. Rains had picked Augusta partly because it sat at the hinge of the Southern rail network between the two halves of the Confederacy, but even the best location couldn’t fix a railroad system that was never designed to work as one united artery.
CWBA: You also mention that Rains’s efforts in Tennessee over the latter half of 1861 are equally deserving of approbation. What did he accomplish during that time and how do you rate its significance?
TS: This is part of his story virtually no one has ever heard about, and I might rank it as important as Augusta. The completion of the Augusta Powder Works made it possible for the Confederacy to fight a long war. Rains’s work in Tennessee helped the Confederacy survive the first year to finish the Augusta mill so it could fight a long war. But for his work in Tennessee and the Western Theater (while he was simultaneously building the Augusta complex), the war would never have stretched beyond one year. Indeed, he, Johnston, and others were shocked they made it through the fall of 1861. Previous writers focus on Johnston’s lack of firearms (and only occasionally mention powder, though without context of what it really meant). That was not really the issue. Even if the Confederates had had triple the number of rifled muskets and artillery pieces they needed, it would have done them no good because they had no gunpowder and little or no niter to make it.
As Rains often noted, Johnston (and his lieutenants) could not fight more than a long skirmish. “There was no remedy,” wrote Rains, “until I could manufacture it for him [Johnston].” Without those mills and the niter refinery Rains built in Nashville (you can’t make military powder without pure niter, and it was the only refinery in the entire Confederacy at that time), there’s no defense of Kentucky, no defense of the major rivers, no Forts Henry and Donelson, no New Madrid and Island No. 10, and no Shiloh. By the time Johnston died at Shiloh, his army had the powder it needed for a major battle or two, and nearly all of it can be traced back to what Rains built from the ground up in Tennessee during the second half of 1861 and early 1862.
Fortunately for the Confederacy, it was at that precise moment in time (April 1862) that the Augusta Powder Works came online. It had taken nine months to finish, and the first month of production was woefully inadequate. Had the works come online just one month later, say in May 1862, Lee probably could not have fought the Seven Days’ Battles to save Richmond. It was that close. It’s not a coincidence that the Confederates were able to gather a large army around Richmond, fight there, and then carry the offensive north all the way into Maryland. None of that would have been possible if Rains had failed, or if President Davis had not had the foresight to erect a massive central powder mill.
All of this spans multiple chapters in great depth in my book. I don’t want to give too much away, because I think it is important for students to read and grasp all of this new information, and I am only sharing a tiny slice of what I have discovered. And as I noted earlier, all of this is in the notes so readers can look it up themselves.
CWBA: Thanks, Ted. You've left us with much to ponder. I am sure I join a great many in wanting to read more about these matters. Readers, The Indispensable Man is scheduled for release from Savas Beatie in the latter half of November so keep an eye out for it next month.
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Hi Drew, Thank you for taking the time and trouble to publish this interview. I deeply appreciate it and I think highly of all that you do here.
ReplyDeleteI'm happy to answer any questions if anyone has any and I will check back routinely. You can go to the Savas Beatie website and on my book's page read the Introduction and see the Bibliography. Thanks for your interest. -- Ted Savas
Nick Nichols
DeleteIt is really interesting to get a well researched deep sive into the powder works and Reins as well it is a very interesting structure and story about a war that seems to be lacking at times with excellent research references. Thanks Ted for an interesting read
Nick
A very good subject, well researched, and should inspire other Civil War people to look into the subject..
DeleteThis was a very important interview. It's clear Ted Savas has diligently researched this project and has spent a long time doing so. It's an invaluable addition to the Civil War genre and will be useful for anyone wanting to enrich their understanding of the Civil War.
ReplyDeleteThanks Paula. Looking forward to your (and Rob Girardi's) bio on General Warren. Onward. -- Ted
DeleteThanks, Drew, for your outstanding website and support of independent publishers such as Savas Beatie LLC. Ted Savas has published eight books that I wrote or co-wrote, and I always enjoy reading interviews with him. I owe him a lot. Thanks again!
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome, Scott. Keep up the great work.
DeleteThanks Scott. Appreciate all you do, and agree. Drew puts in endless hours for those of us who love this subject. Onward. --Ted
DeleteThis is a most intriguing work of scholarship, Mr. Savas; looking forward with anticipation to reading the book.
ReplyDeleteThe US Census in 1860 tallies an occupation count of just 3,732 Civil and Mechanical Engineers in the eleven southern states - that’s just 0.2% of the South’s occupation count that year (1,494,659). This gentleman was amongst a rare breed indeed.
Rob,
DeleteIf you haven't already read it, you might be interested in Thomas Army's "Engineering Victory." It delves pretty deeply into the professional and educational disparity in engineers and engineering between the sections.
Thank you, Rob. The rarest of breeds, yes. Thomas Carlyle argued that “The History of the world is but the Biography of great men,” i.e. the Great Man theory of history. Now that I have spent decades living with Rains, I am convinced he was one of the most important Americans of the 19th Century, and an honest history of the Civil War rests on the biography of George Rains. His influence changed American history in ways large and small. I look forward to hearing your thoughts when (as?) you read the book. You know how to reach me. -- Ted Savas
DeleteOmar Bradley stated that "amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics." CWBA and Ted Savas reinforce that truth in this interview and Ted's book, The Indispensable Man. This fact is playing out today in Operation Epic Fury, just it had in the Civil War. Quality ammunition n the right quantities can make the difference between victory and defeat. Ted also shares how the weather continues to be a contributing factor in warfare. Its effects can change the course of battle. A great interview describing a compelling work that I can't wait to read. God Bless and Semper Fi
ReplyDeleteThank you, General Bohm. I appreciate you taking the time and trouble to comment. I have always loved logistics and strategy, and this project satisfied that itch. Onward. -- Ted Savas
DeleteFull disclosure: I read the manuscript for Ted and helped out with the copy editing. I'm certain everyone who reads this book will learn something, from the fragile nature of the Confederate war effort in the early months to the importance of bat poop to that effort. Plus you also see Rains the man; he basically sacrificed his marriage (to a Northerner) and family life to make powder for the South. There's even a touch of the paranormal in Rains's fascination with spiritualism, which was so in vogue in late Victorian America.
ReplyDeleteJoel Manuel
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And you did a great job, Joel. Thank you. Rains's relationship with the Ramsdell powerhouse and his wife and daughter is fascinating reminiscent of a Greek tragedy. -- Ted
DeleteVery much looking forward to this one. I study the strategy of the conflict, mostly from the Southern perspective, and it sounds like this book is going to be foundational in a new understanding of the way the war was waged.
ReplyDeleteHi Derek, thank you. I didn't know that was your specific area of interest. The Indispensable Man is directly up your alley. You will never see the war the same way. It is both satisfying and disturbing simultaneously. -- Ted Savas
DeleteOk — this is interesting! I’ve visited Tredegar in Richmond and Tannehill Ironworks in Alabama. The “2nd book” is definitely the flip side to the ironworks in terms of Confederate logistics. I look forward to learning more!
ReplyDeleteThanks Mark. Rains worked hand in hand with the Tredegar early in the war. I hope you enjoy it and I welcome your questions. -- Ted
DeleteThis is a well needed addition to Civil War scholarship and looking forward to its publication. The science behind the manufacturing of gunpowder seems a particularly promising topic that has been left untapped by historians. Congrats on this well deserved title.
ReplyDeleteThanks Jeff and for helping with a few things along the way. -- Ted
DeleteThree recognized levels of war exist: tactical, operational, and strategic. In this interview and his related work, Ted shows how gunpowder shaped all three levels in the Confederate war effort. Understandably a somewhat esoteric topic, Ted aptly demonstrates why this “industrial and logistics history” is a subject that all Civil War enthusiasts should dig into. George Herbert's 1640 poem (later expanded by Benjamin Franklin), “For want of a nail,” underscores that logistics do matter. In this case, you can add gunpowder, too.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely true, Ed. And I hope I did them all justice in trying to explain them all in context. Onward. -- Ted
DeleteGreat interview! This is groundbreaking stuff. I think the entire Civil War community is looking forward to the publication of Ted’s book. I know I am. From this interview alone, it is evident that the book will challenge much of what we think we know about the war.
ReplyDeleteThank you Chris and I hope so. We'll see. A lot of people have spent decades emotionally invested in a particular belief system and this is not going to sit well with many of them. One prominent historian congratulated me on all the deep archival research and confirmed its importance and that it was all new to him, and in the next sentence defaulted back to "Rains could not have been as important as you suggest . . ." Time will tell. -- Ted
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ReplyDeleteI submitted a really good comment earlier but forgot to include my name...too bad, so sad but I understand your policy. Ted's work here is unparalleled. This subject has not been promoted as much as it deserves. No gunpowder, no civil war. It would have been like the peasants assaulting Frankenstein's Castle with pitchforks, rakes, and axes. Too bad the Union could not take advantage of this deficiency in the first months of the war. I am familiar with the Augusta story from my research with Sherman's 'March' and Slocum/Geary route on the left flank of the army, and the reasons why they did not to take (but did threaten) the works. Ted has found a real gem here and we all can look forward to his thought-provoking coverage of the events. Go, Ted.
ReplyDeleteI very much enjoyed the Q&A session with Ted Savas, and I may be the first in line to purchase his new book.
ReplyDeleteI lived many years in Richmond, toured Tredegar many times, but admit I too was oblivious to the full story of George Rains and the Confederate Powder Works in Augusta.
As I lecture frequently on Civil War history I get so much blow back from audiences these days about Confederate history and imagery, so I love it when the story of an incredible man like George Rains emerges who had such talent and devotion to his work even though he worked for the Southern cause. It is a story of American greatness, and can be appreciated independent of all the divisive politics of that era.
I can appreciate the value of quality research this book represents. Thank you for sharing.
Hi David, thanks for your interest! The Tredegar is (and was) and incredible facility. Many papers and magazine editors who knew Rains commented that they were disappointed he used his "genius" to further Confederate fortunes. I look forward to your review (hopefully) of my book and seeing yours on the Maine soldiers. Onward. -- Ted
DeleteThank you for posting this interview. Ted has filled a major void with this research and we could not get in our hands without publisher's like him.
ReplyDeleteThanks Mike. We all labor in the same vineyard. We just have to tend the grapes and soil properly. Congratulations on your recent Revolutionary War award. Well deserved. -- Ted
DeleteThis is fascinating stuff and will open a new vista for understanding Confederate strategy for the war. Adding this one to my growing list of titles to purchase here in October.
ReplyDeleteThanks Dan. I am thankful Drew does what he does here, and that we have this outlet to share our passion. Onward. -- Ted
DeleteThanks for posting this interview. Ted has been working on this project for a long time. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the book.
ReplyDeleteThanks Kevin. I have indeed been working this for a long while (longer than you have been alive. lol) I hope you read it and enjoy it. -- Ted
DeleteDrew: That's a great, thorough interview of Ted. This subject is well removed from my own ACW "obsessions" but for me it's a "must buy", ground breaking study of an important subject. It's almost too obvious to state but gunpowder was a critical matter for both sides, and each had its unique manufacturing/supply issues during the war. This is the sort of detailed, "readable" coverage those issues need.
ReplyDeleteThanks John. Appreciate it. --Ted
DeleteAlways enjoy your interviews and really looking forward to this one.
ReplyDeleteLots here for you, Charlie. I think you will enjoy it. -- Ted
DeleteA great interview with Ted Savas on a long-overlooked aspect of the war. I never truly understood how dire the powder situation was in the Confederacy early in the war and how critical the establishment of the Augusta powder plant was to the war effort. Looking forward to reading the book.
ReplyDeleteRob, your city up that way (Richmond) played a big role. Look forward to sharing it with you. -- Ted
DeleteI saw a presentation that Ted gave on the book when it was a still a work-in-progress, and I've been really looking forward to reading it ever since! One of the reasons I enjoying reading new Civil war literature in particular is the very professionalism of the successful writers in the field. Other popular subjects of history have tended to be overrun by...let's say 'enthusiasts', who don't read, don't know the literature except for what's been scraped online. And judging from the mass of documentation Ted shared with us, "The Indispensable Man" is the result of long and persistent on-site archival searches, and its a fascinating subject as well. Great interview.
ReplyDeleteThanks Scott. I remember that presentation--Gettysburg 2025. Hope you enjoy it when it finally arrives. --Ted
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ReplyDeleteGreat interview, Drew and Ted! I learned so much about the Confederate challenges and how George Rains helped ameliorate them. When Ted came out with the book, I thought—hmmm…seems very esoteric and not something I would read. However, after reading the interview, I can’t wait to get my hands on the book as it is so much more than a biography of a little know actor. Rains’ contributions cannot be minimized and ignored, as they have in the past. Ted has brought Rains’ contributions front and center. It is a book as much about Rains as it is about the Confederacy and how it was able to survive for four years given its deficiencies in just about everything. Thank you, Ted, for bringing Rains’ contributions to light.
Thanks Brad. Glad you liked the interview. It hits the shelves the third week of November. It will rock a few boats. :) -- Ted
DeleteThanks for posting this interview. I always enjoy hearing from the authors themselves about how and why they wrote their book. I, for one, would find the logistics and complexity of powder manufacturing very interesting.
ReplyDeleteHi Matt, thanks for this. Actually it's quite fascinating. One of my biggest hurdles is trying to get potential readers to understand that while this book centers on one man (and especially his role with the Augusta Powder Works and the war), it so much more. It is a reevaluation of the war's first year (and how it ended!) from what we think happened to what was actually happening. The questions raised are challenging. They are not "What If" sorts of queries. I don't engage in that. Looking forward to what you think! Onward. -- Ted
DeleteI'm the narrator of Ted's audiobook on the saga of Confederate gun powder. I thought I knew a lot about the Civil War, but Ted's meticulous research and the insights from newspapers of the period create a perspective that students of the conflict cannot get elsewhere. I'm not quite finished producing it, but it's also great story of Rains' marvelous persistence and ingenuity.
ReplyDeleteThanks Tim. It takes a brave soul to narrate this one. Glad you are aboard and happy you are discovering the world of Rains. It is a remarkable place. -- Ted
DeleteGeorge Rains and the Augusta Powder Works were of immense importance to the Confederacy. Thank you for bringing this story to the forefront.
ReplyDeleteThanks Mike, and thanks for all you do organizing and running the Civil War Round Table Congress--which is so important to keeping all this going and the community vibrant and alive. Onward. -- Ted
DeleteGreat interview! I’m actually working on a book for Savas Beatie right now tentatively titled The “Rice” Line: The Confederate Forts of the Upper South Carolina Coast. I mention this because when I found out about this interview with Ted and read it, I realized he filled in a missing puzzle piece or two for my book. I’d heard of General Gabriel Rains of course and I address his work in my book in regard to the mining of Winyah Bay in the fall of 1864, but although I’d run across a reference to “The Bomb Brothers” in my research, I really knew very little about George Rains. Additionally, it obvious just from the interview that Ted’s book will bring a clearer perspective to (and a good reference for) why the forts in this area early in the war had men and artillery but no powder – something I’ve run across again and again. I really can’t wait to read this one and fill in some blanks. Thanks Ted!
ReplyDeleteThanks for reading And taking the time to comment, Rick. That's very interesting about the small local forts and having no powder. I didn't dive too deeply into the smaller fortifications; I had too much information on everything else and I couldn't use it all! It does not surprise me, however. It was true nearly everywhere, across the Confederacy for nearly a year. I look forward to working with you. Onward. -- Ted
DeleteGreat Interview - but not enough time or space, I assume, to fully reveal the enormity of this seminal research by Savas. It will strongly influence a new understanding of the American Civil War. When released, this work will be regarded as a major contribution to the historic record of the conflict. We read here bare hints at the volume of original material that the author's meticulous and years of long research has produced. I can't wait for the work to be published-or for the clarity it will bring to opening years of the war. Why did the North give this extraordinary man the time to built the Powder Works?
ReplyDeleteThanks Mark. You have been hearing about this journey with Rains since you recruited me to join the Hunley expedition 33 years ago! I have often enjoyed our trips to the Augusta Powder Works chimney. I look forward to getting a copy into your hands. Onward. -- Ted
DeleteI found the Ted Savas interview truly fascinating. As one with a decent interest in Georgia history, I knew of the Augusta Powder Works but never heard of George Washington Rains. It turns out Rains designed, built, and managed the Works, the largest producer of gun powder in the Confederacy. He certainly must be seen as one of the most important men in the Confederate war effort. His education, service in the Mexican-American war, and work experiences made him uniquely qualified for the task. One wonders how the Confederacy would have survived as long as it did without him. In this regard Ted raises an intriguing issue. The Augusta Powder Mill wasn’t completed until April 1862 and quality powder was a scarce commodity throughout the Confederate armies. Lincoln and his advisors were aware of this and knew if their armies fought more aggressively early on, they would have drained the rebels of their powder supplies and their ability to fight. The conflict would have ended so much sooner, yet Lincoln opted for a long war. The interview indicates there are many other thought-provoking revelations in Ted’s book. I’m anxiously awaiting its release.
ReplyDeleteThanks Jim. It's interesting how little people know of George W. Rains, and how critically important he turned out to be. It just goes to show you how our opinions are not shaped by historic facts; they are assigned to us by what we read and hear. -- Ted
DeleteVery excited about this book. Really looking forward to it.
ReplyDeleteThanks Natan--I am excited to have you read it! -- Ted
DeleteWe have been teased long enuff---let's get it out Ted!
ReplyDeleteHa! It is at the printer's now. Thanks Bill. -- Ted
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